In September, Trump’s FBI Director Kash Patel testified before congress when he insisted convicted child predator Jeffrey Epstein did not engage in blackmail. Patel is also famously helping the cover up by stonewalling the release of the files after years of stoking the controversy when Trump was running. Now one of Trump’s cabinet members, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik, is saying that Epstein did indeed engage in blackmail. He also offered that blackmail is at the root of Epstein getting a sweet heart deal to avoid prison in 2008. Lutnik spoke publicly in an interview with Miranda Devine on Pod Force One.

Lutnik was a neighbor of Epstein in New York and has been in his home. In the interview Lutnik stated, “I say to him, ‘Massage table in the middle of your house? How often do you have a massage? and Epstein says ‘’Every day.’ And then he gets, like, weirdly close to me, and he says, ‘And the right kind of massage.’”

In his testimony before congress, Patel also claimed Epstein did not traffic minors to anyone but himself. This is despite victims saying that many other powerful people were involved in the abuse.

During the interview on Pod Force, Lutnik was asked about the powerful people who associated with Epstein, and stated, “They participated.”

Lutnik did not stop there and added, “They get a massage, that’s what his MO was. ‘Get a massage, get a massage,’ and what happened in that massage room, I assume, was on video.” The commerce secretary went on, “This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever, blackmailed people. That’s how he had money.”

Speaking of the stunning non-prosecution deal Epstein got in 2008 despite strong evidence of child exploitation and trafficking, Lutnik said, “I assume way back when they traded those videos in exchange for him getting that 18-month sentence, which allowed him to have visits and be out of jail. I mean, he’s a serial sex offender. How could he get 18 months and be able to go to his office during the day and have visitors and stuff? There must have been a trade.”

Some of Epstein’s vicitims who are now adults have said that among the names of people in the Epstein files are members of Trump’s cabinet.

Clearly, Commerce Secretary Lutnik needs to be subpoenaed and testify under oath.